Posts by Doubting Bro

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"We are at the end of the last day of the last days. The governing body feels strongly about this."

by BroMac in

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And this could be the last convention on this side of Armegeddon! Don't forget to donate at the credit card machines. You won't need to pay that money back anyway as soon the financial system of things will be destroyed.

Now, a few review points from the annual meeting: Construction is planned at Warwick that will be completed in 2014. blah, blah,blah

Also brothers, you'll be please to know that the GB is already working on the program for next year's 3 day district convention.

Seriously, I've heard this crap literally my entire life.

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New DVD "Become Jehovah's Friend"

by treadnh2o in

hey peeps,.

it's been a long while since i've posted (i am completely out - wife and kids still in) but thought you might this interesting.. they came home from the district convention yesterday with the new dvd intended for kids.

they popped it in right away and this is what happens:.

Doubting Bro

I think the most amazing comment here is the one Sir82 refers about the active JW thinking the DVD was an apostate fake.

What's he going to do when he gets it at the DC? Boy, if that's not a wake up call, I don't know what is.

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Today's wt study article quotes a Nazi mass murderer as a reference

by fugue in

today's study article, "do not look at the things behind," from the 3/15/12 study edition, which was reviewed by blondie in her thread, has a footnote on paragraph 12.. the original-language word here translated refuse.

also meant what is thrown to the dogs,.

dung, excrement.

Doubting Bro

TOH - Interesting that you chose CoC to make your point. A quick internet search reveals them to be every bit the cult that JWs are. Obviously few here care what the CoC teaches but it is fair to point out that other religions besides JWs use Kittel as a reference source.

At least they actually named him instead of using the "one scholar" reference.

If I were writing a religious article (or any article for that matter), I'd probably refrain from using a Nazi war criminal as a reference source unless the article was specifically about Nazi Germany. I wouldn't want people to associate my name with such a person.

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Sparlock has a Facebook Fan page!!!

by discreetslave in

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for those of you on facebook there is a fan page for the wizard https://www.facebook.com/sparlockthewizard.

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Doubting Bro

I LOVE it!! You know what, the WTS is really a big joke.

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Who or what are you most angry at, when it comes to your situation in relation to JW Org?

by BreathoftheIndianNose in

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i've been receiving very bitter messages from jws i know, mostly my mother, but also others that know how to contact me electronically.

sometimes i find myself mad at her, though not displaying it.

but i know it's really not her or my fathers fault.

Doubting Bro

I'm angry with myself. I had numerous chances to escape but didn't. I had a co-worker back when I was 20 or 21 years old give me one of Randy's tracts, I think it was "what happened at Bethel in 1980" or something like that. Instead of reading it, I dismissed it immediately. I could have researched, instead I blindly went along with the religion of my family.

Yes, the GB lies on a regular basis, but I really hate the fact that I fell for it. I will never again believe anyone who claims to speak for God.

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Thank our friends at JW Talk for the Convention Release Scans

by puffthedragon in

well our dear faithful ones at jwtalk have seen fit to provide jehovah's "food at the proper time" earlier to the rest of the world than their governing body sees fit, so to follow are the scans from the convention.. .

dvd front:.

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Doubting Bro

Very creepy! It reminds me of some of the fundie stuff I've seen.

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Etan Patz Confessed Killer Attends Kingdom Hall

by breakfast of champions in

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the etan patz story was huge when i was a kid in the 70's.

very scary, parents didn't let kids out of their sight.

investigators found the body several weeks ago, and now this guy comes forward.. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20120525_neighbors_shocked_that_etan_patz_rsquo_s_confessed_killer_lived_among_them.html.

Doubting Bro

james - that's how I read it as well. As others have mentioned, he'll likely be tied to JWs even if its his wife and daughter that are the ones who are JWs. It will be interesting as the case unfolds.

I wonder what caused him to finally confess?

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to all those who pretend to be jw's...

by londonlady in

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im just wondering,how do you do it?

how do you manage to convice them that your genuine?

how do you manage to keep up that pretense without running screaming from the hall?.

Doubting Bro

So many JWs go through the motions that it's difficult to tell which ones really believe and which ones are only there because the consequences of leaving are more than they can bear.

For me, I rarely go out in service (although turn in a regular report), go with my wife to meetings (but miss as many as I can), comment about once every 4-5 months and give about 4 talks a year (2 of them bible readings).

No elder has ever questioned me.

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World map showing net reduction in publisher numbers

by cedars in

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mp has asked which country has lost the most publishers, and i decided to investigate.

one thing led to another, and i decided to produce another world map, this time showing the net reduction in publishers for each country.. this has been calculated by means of the following equation for each country:.

2011 total no.

Doubting Bro

JW facts calls it percentage that stopped publishing compared to number baptised on his page. I find the breakout by country you did interesting Cedars. Paul looked at a number of different measures on his website:

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php

It's hard to measure but the bottom line trend is not promising for the WTS. If the trend continues, they will enter into a period of net decline. The % increase in publishers is down (growth but less growth), the actual number increase in publishers is down and baptisms are down both in raw numbers as well as % of average publishers.

00DAD has some interesting questions and I'm not sure even the WTS has the answers to those, although I would think they would find it pretty helpful in their retention efforts if they did. I do recall hearing at somewhere around 50% of DF'ed eventually come back but not sure if there's any validity to that. I would say the number who DA returning are practically nil. I would also venture to guess that based on my somewhat limited experience, the ratio of DF to DA is probably like 95% DF and 5% DA. It still is news when someone around here DAs.

I also believe that the number of baptisms as a percentage of publishers took a major nose dive as a result of the 95 generation change. The effect of that on the urgency level of the rank and file JW while sublimal was important since that was the first time many started to realize that they were going to retire and likely die in "this system".

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Is your 3-day Watchtower Emergency Kit all ready?

by FatFreek 2005 in

have i missed something by not browsing each and every posting here?.

up till very recently, my two sons (one a jw and one, a non-jw) lived in the same community.

the never-baptized son decided to move to a different u.s. state and within a few miles of my home i'm a df'd person as of 33 years ago.

Doubting Bro

There was a service meeting part last week reserved for local needs. Here, they reviewed what was obviously a BOE letter detailing the disaster prep plan. The information made sense because you never know when a big storm or blackout can knock out power for a few days. What I got out of it was that the elders were going to be harrassing the publishers by field service groups to provide contact information. Phone numbers, email, etc. Also, they want out of state contact information in case of a Katrina like evacuation.

There was also a bunch of WT references handed out about what needs to go in an emergency kit.

Here in the US, hurricane preparedness week is either this week or next week and I'm sure the local news will have a little fluff piece on what you need to do. There's nothing special about what the WTS said. The biggest problem I had with it was that the elder giving the part (COBOE) went on and on about how this was life saving information from Jehovah and that we're special that we've been given it. I couldn't stop rolling my eyes.

My company had an internal article a few months ago on disaster preparedness not only for work but what you need to do on a personal level. These are practical reminders that come from many sources. Pretty sure that Jehovah is not the source of this.

I will give them some made up contact info just because it's easier than arguing why I don't want them to have my personal info.

Of course, you know JWs. Many of the crazier ones are going to take this and run with it. Meanwhile, the WTS will use this program as proof that they are performing "charity" work if the IRS questions their not for profit status.